Midlife Madness Podcast

It's Not Over!

• Martha Savloff, Master Certified Health Coach

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We challenge the myth that midlife is a decline and show how perspective, functional medicine, and community can turn chaos into clarity. Julie shares candid stories on divorce, hormones, and starting over with humor and heart.

• redefining midlife as opportunity not countdown
• leaving a secure career to rebuild purpose
• divorce without warfare and co‑parenting with respect
• modern dating, romance, and small acts that matter
• men’s midlife health and ending silent suffering
• perimenopause symptoms that don’t look textbook
• normal range vs optimal health in lab results
• functional medicine, hormone testing, and tailored care
• practical tools for sleep, cravings, mood, and energy
• RISE method for release, identity, strategy, and equipment
• community as medicine and self‑advocacy as a habit

Find Julie on Facebook at Julie Cooper Savitz and on YouTube: Julie Savitz — It’s Not Over. “You will learn something and you will laugh and you will not feel alone.”


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Disclaimer:
Martha Savloff is not a medical doctor. The information shared in this podcast is for educational and inspirational purposes only and should not replace professional medical advice. Always consult with your healthcare provider before making changes to your health or wellness plan.


SPEAKER_00:

Here we are with Julie Savitz. I am so excited that you are in our midlife madness podcast. We want to get to know you. We want to get to know your midlife madness experience. All the things, guys, get ready for a ride because this Julie, I was just saying she's a spicy one and we like spicy. I always say I'm Cuban and I'm spicy too. So let's do it, right? Let's do it. So, Julie, share with us who you are. Tell us all about yourself.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, I'm going to, but it's so interesting as you're speaking, Martha. I I'm like, what is midlife, right? Like, remember when we were young? Like my mom was 40. She was old. I thought she was old. So here I am at 53. Um, I think it's all perspective and how you look at it and how long you take are taking care of yourself and how long your your health is and your mental and your wellness and stuff. So, yes, I'm probably over midlife based on what Chat GPT would say. But yes, let's do this.

SPEAKER_00:

So you know what? You're so right, Julie. The other day I was watching um a health podcast, and uh the doctor that was on there was saying that if you really like calculate midlife, you know, if if the average person passes away at 86, then midlife is 43. I'm like, holy moly, that sucks. But however, thank god, like you just said, um you remember like in back in the day, the the yearbooks from like the 70s, yes, and the 80s.

SPEAKER_01:

Scratch people out instead of deleting scratch people's faces. I didn't know this, yeah. Yeah, I did that too. You had to look at first, so it's not yes, and then you were like, I deleted you.

SPEAKER_02:

Now you could hit a button and delete, but that was our deletion.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yes, when you would look at those yearbooks, people look so much older than today. Like so much older, and so thankfully for us that we're we're here today, that you know, there's so many different things that we can do to help us in our help our longevity. So midlife might be different than what it was before, you know what I mean? But that's that's crazy when he was saying that that if you really calculate midlife, it's really this, and it's like, no, I don't receive that.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm 50 years old, so and you know what it's perspective and motivation, right? It is there's so many people, and I'm I'll get into my store in a second that see it as we're just I'm just gonna lay here and wait and retire and say in a job I don't love because I can't do anything new, and it's all perspective. And this is my always my message, Martha. I know it's yours also. Every day is a new opportunity to start something new, to gain your confidence, to talk with someone to see where you're going next. Because I think so many women in particular feel stuck after a certain age, or stuck in a marriage, or stuck at a weight, or stuck in their story, stuck in a they're waiting for their pension or they're waiting to retire in a job they do not like. So I'm like, it's time, ladies. Let's do it. Let's let's it's time.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what? I was I was checking out your Facebook um page, and I love I think your podcast is called It's Not Over, right? Correct, correct. Like, oh my gosh, I love that so much. It's not over. It's like that's what you were just saying. It's not over.

SPEAKER_02:

It's not over, and it it's it's it's everything you want it to be. There, there are women, uh you know, we call it like the sandwich generation. Their parents are getting older and their kids are leaving the house and going to college, and so many people like boohoo! I'm like, holy crap, how awesome is that? You did your job with your kids, it's your time now. Like, how amazing! What an opportunity to say, what do I want now? It's it's different stages, and you have to keep turning pages. So, and you know what? I I recognize that quickly, my story. Um, I was in I was a middle school guidance counselor for 24 years, which gets me ready for anything, really. I highly recommend it. Yeah, it's like hazing that they do in college. But it was, and and that was my love. And along came COVID. And although I had 24 years in the school system and I wasn't at the retirement age yet, I didn't like what I was doing. I was like that, you know, on this, and they had me counting tests and doing a lot of testing because the tests here in Florida schools get grades, and there would be a note on my door or Julie Savage can't see you today. And I was thinking this is not exactly what I went to school for. It's not, it's not feeding my soul. So I decided I'm going to do something else. And I've done a few things, Martha, and true transparency. Some things have worked out, some things haven't. I started a business that was not successful, but okay. It I learned something from that. So now I have devoted my life, just like you have, to women and men, but mostly women over the age of 40, 50, kind of to open their eyes to give them a map as to what's next. So I learned through my own divorce. It's it's it's nice to be relatable and to know people's story because I have an extremely amicable divorce. Like my ex-husband and I, we travel together and stay in the same room and with my boyfriend if I have one, which changes often. Um there's some horror stories out there with divorces. It is awful. You because you know what happens. I see it on my and people want to win. There's no win in divorce. So you focus on yourself, you focus on your your kids and your children because they're watching. Um, I think this next generation, even Martha, they're not gonna get married because they they see for a lot of people the institution is not what was like you see in a Disney movie, right? Like, oh, you're gonna put on a slipper and it's gonna be amazing, and all of a sudden, right?

SPEAKER_00:

You're tired. That's a bit sad too. I I was also listening to somebody yesterday, um, and they were also talking about like this generation um are not prone to wanting to have children either.

SPEAKER_02:

No, they're not, and how sad is that it's very sad.

SPEAKER_00:

It's very, very sad. We need to bring romance back. Yes, yes, we need to bring romance back, we need to bring the beauty of family and um recording, men do not know open the door, or do something nice, or say someone's pretty, or send a flower.

SPEAKER_02:

It's all social media, and it is gets in your brain, and men there are a lot of women, which which is great that do want to do things on their own, but down deep, most men want to be treated like a king, and that's totally understandable. And a woman wants to feel treated like a bit of a queen, so open the door. You remember we used to make cassette tapes for people? How sweet is that? What happened to that? Simple little things that took a second that was super meaningful. Now it's people texting Martha, and so many things get lost in translation, and um, it it's a little bit sad. I'm hopeful that it's going to change, and you know, you we have the same-sex marriages and whatever it is, and love is love if that's what you want to do. And but I just think um it's it's respect, it is especially that midlife madness. Relationships as you get older, there's stepchildren and an ex-wife, and you're you already have two homes, and it's building them together. It's not like you're 20 and you're building a house together, so it's challenging, but it can be so awesome if you really know your love and you know what you want and you're okay being alone, which is hard, then that's when it happens. That's when the magic happens. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. So here I am. I kind of devoted my life to speaking to women post-divorce or during transitions to kind of see that there is better and there is more. And again, it's not over. So it's it's been kind of fun, it's it's a lot of fun. So it is um releasing, you know, releasing what you have. I have this rise technique, they release what they've had, identify where you're going. We come up with a strategy. I'm not, you know, I want to give people tools. I don't want someone calling me at 12 at night or one in the morning. What do I do? So we've done our job, people have tools, and you know, off into the world. So it's just a a chapter change.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that because it's very needed. I have a um a great friend of mine that's going through a divorce. Um, it's very sad and it's very nasty.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_00:

It's very nasty. And and the the hard part is that the nasty one is the other party, it's not her. So then it's just it's really taking a toll on her, you know, because it's so many different emotions, right? Like you want to be angry, you you're sad, you're sad for your kids, yeah, you know. Um, you want to punch them in the face and you can't you want to take them to the cleaners, and that's not, you know, you don't want to pay all the attorney fees if you do. Like it's just there's so many different emotions that come with it. Um, and so I I think that it's so needed that there's somebody like you, you know, that is that will help help these these ladies and and guys too, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Men have a very hard time midlife for men, they have dysfunction with their thing, and they're getting older and they're getting bald, and it is very difficult for men. It's harder for them to ask for help, but there's also a switch there too, I'm noticing, which is so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'm glad you said that because um I feel like sometimes I'm an advocate for men because um I know that that you know, obviously women, you know, it's important, all those things, but I feel like women go through a lot of things, and we we talk about it and and we we think about menopause. When you think about menopause, we think about women. Um, but men go through a lot too.

SPEAKER_02:

Men go through a lot. You know what happens with women, Martha? With women, they someone will tell you, oh, go do yoga or go do this, or we're prone to go to go try it out, right? We're prone to try it out. But a guy they'll be like, Here's some Viagra and leave me alone. Like they never really get that sort of person listening to exactly what's going on, and they have this macho thing that's happening, but it's it's very real for men, also.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, it's the way my husband says it. They uh we suffer in silence, yes, yes, women are also prone to just talk about it, like what we're doing right now. We just talk about it, we're we're transparent, we you know, all these different things. I have a women's conference and I'm speaking at this weekend, we talk about all things, but men tend to be a bit more closed and and they suffer in silence. And it's okay to talk about the fact that men also need help. And and so that's part of my heart is obviously helping women all day, every day, but also like saying, Hey guys, you know, guys go through stuff, and and when they have um like sexual deficiencies, that's that hurts them.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, yes, it's your ego, it's your ego, but every everyone, it happens to everyone, yeah. So it they're not alone, they're not alone. Women will get together and be like, oh, my period was like for 30 days late, oh great, or you know, women are more prone to talk about it, or dryness, or whatever, or hormones, hormone replacement. Like it's it's it's an open discussion as it should be. And um I think for men it's not they feel alone, or their women emasculate them, or they don't realize it's something normal. They don't realize a lot of times, Martha, it's their diet and their exercise. So it's it's all connected and kind of putting like a puzzle together.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah. So tell me, what's what's your midlife madness story? It we talk a lot about menopause here. Yeah. Um, did you go through anything during menopause or what's your story?

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, so the interesting thing for me is I'm still dropping eggs. It's the weirdest thing. I'm the only one out of all my friends. I drop an egg every month. So I think the misconception is that menopause happens when you stop getting your period for a year or six months. I promise you it is not. This is a perimenopause. Um, so I literally, I just want to say for like three months, Martha. I I couldn't literally, and I'm a pretty happy person. I'm a high functioning person on a regular day. Um, I was bald up in my bed.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02:

I didn't want to go to sleep. I did not want to wake up. And when I did, I was faking it for my kids and pretending to be normal. I knew that something was going on inside of me that was not making sense. So I suffered. I really suffered. I have um my very good friend would have to come over some mornings. Her name is Amy. I said, Amy, oh my god, you need to come to my house this morning because I cannot get my kid out of bed. I did not have a call because I wasn't sleeping, I wasn't eating, and I'm faking it all day long. Like I'm fine and everything's fine. And um, I I knew, I just knew something was was off. I knew something was off. So I ended up months of that, which I wish I didn't take so long. I actually was very, very vocal on social media, which was a lot of people were so thankful. Like Julie, thank you for talking about it. I there was um um all sorts of stuff in my family history, depression and things that was creeping up, and it was my hormones, and it was, you know, I getting older is not fun. So I ended up going to a functional medicine doctor. I'm a big fan of functional medicine and big fan.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm so glad because I was gonna ask you what did your doctor say, because I and and just let me just share for one second, because I I want people to catch this, it's important who you go to. I was suffering so bad, Julie. I was I was bleeding three weeks out of four weeks a month. I was my breast felt like I just had a baby. You know, when you have a baby and you're you're you it's like if somebody touches your breast, you want to kill them because they're so you know painful. Yeah, my breasts were like that for three weeks out of four weeks a month. I am a super high functional person, productive. I my brain fog was crazy. Um I felt bad for my husband because my mood was all over the place, like I was super agitated, and I'm in this business, so I knew that okay, something's going on. I'm in pre pre uh perimenopause for sure. Um, this was a couple of years, it was I was 47. So I went to my my GYN doctor and they checked my my hormones and they're like, You're fine. And I'm like, I'm not fine.

SPEAKER_01:

Good.

SPEAKER_00:

My body is not telling me that I'm fine. This is not me. Like, I'm not supposed to be bleeding three weeks out of four weeks, right? Right. My libido was I like I had no sexual desire whatsoever. It was down to the dumb so it was bad. So I'm like, you know what? I I just I'm not fine. I know that I'm not fine. I'm going, I'm gonna go to a functional medicine doctor, right? So come to find out my my I was estrogen dominant. Interesting so my estrogen levels were like out of whack. I had to start doing uh low dose of progesterone. As soon as I started doing that, I was back to normal. Yeah, yes, it's like the the light came down from heaven, right? Yes, and I was like, see, I um I come from from healthcare, so I'm not anti-medical or any of that. Um my my mother-in-law was a doctor, my mom worked on you know, all the things. But the problem is is there's a difference between looking at blow work and seeing that your accounts are within a range. Okay, you're within range and you're fine, versus being optimal.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't I don't want to be in range, I want to freaking be optimal. You deserve it too. So that's so I'm so glad. I say all that to say, and I tell this to our audience all the time go check your hormones, go to a functional medicine doctor. It's worth the money. Yes. Um, and so I'm glad that you went to a functional medicine doctor.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, and and it's so interesting that that I have a different story, shameful, that I went to my gynecologist who I love. She birthed both of my daughters. Um, I went to her when I started to feel funky, and she literally didn't even do a hormone test on me. She gave me, because she had some drug rep coming into her office, she gave me estrogen. She's like, here, take this, come back in a few weeks. I'm like, what? I I didn't, she didn't even check my levels. So, and there are doctors, you know what the research shows that um gynecologists um they go they're in school for four years. They get three months, that all they get is three months of training on menopause. And it's hasn't happened to you, it will, or it's going to, or it has. So I it's it's very, very sad. And and you know what, when I did get my hormone levels checked, my estrogen was fully fine. I was like you, it was my progesterone and my testosterone was at zero. So it's not for everyone. I have a lot of friends that listen to me and they had breast cancer or they can't take certain hormones. I'm not a doctor, right? I just like to share my story that for some we women it's a it is a godsend, and it's something so simple as something you're not making it anymore. So why not? You if you have a headache, you would take an aspirin.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep. It's it's important for people to know um that you have to check your levels because not everybody's the same, it's not a one size fits all when it comes to this. So make sure that you go to the to your provider, make sure they check their levels, uh, or your levels, because um it's important that you're you have uh the right balance of your hormones.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. I would love to, Martha. I don't know if we can even do this on the show, but I I have the the the you know, when you take the lab work that my functional medicine doctor, and a lot of it, that's a whole nother conversation. We'll jump on another day how insurance didn't want to pay for it. Right. Um awful, but even maybe I could add in the notes, I'll take my name out, just the things that my doctor checked for that threw back kind of the okay, Julian. It was very intense. Like I think he checked for a tick or something that I thought was kind of wild, but it's just finding out what the problem is because if you you don't know the problem, you don't have a solution. And that was at zero, my testosterone, and women think, oh, that's okay. We're not supposed to have testosterone. Yeah, you are.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we are. We are absolutely supposed to. Um, yeah, I can we can add that, and um that's what functional medicine doctors do. Yes, yes, they they dive deep. I was with mine for two and a half hours, yeah, and they checked every nook and cranny of my body, my lifestyle, emotional, all the things. We even talk about spiritual things, like we talked about all the things. Beautiful, and they're looking at the whole person, the whole person, and really diving into the root causes, which is important because you know you don't want to slap band-aids on these things, yeah, because you're you band-aids have to be replaced, so you're gonna be band-aiding forever. Just like let's just let's just go to the root cause of things and let's get it done. Um, and so that's what what they do. I'm a big, big fan of functional medicine doctors, and there's a lot more, like our society is going that direction, and it's true, it's it's it's not paid by insurance, but you know what? Like, you the cost of going to a functional medicine doctor, in my experience, is like the equivalent of two dinners, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Right. I always think Martha, too, and I think we've had this conversation before. What are people spending money on, right? They'll go do dinners, but they won't hire you as their coach to be like, hey, so no one's bridging the gap for them between emotional well-being and physical well-being because you can't have one without the other. You just can't.

SPEAKER_00:

It's so true.

SPEAKER_02:

I'll tell you what happened to have a funny story. I have a lot of funny stories. So, my functional medicine doctor who I ended up going to, he's a doctor, he's up in Boca. Um, he ended up hiring me to come in as a life coach because he saw the need to kind of again bridge that gap between you know, medical and and spiritual, like you said, and sometimes we just do breathing, or sometimes we just do hey, that must be really hard. I'm so sorry that's happening to you. So I think it's very fast forward, and I do think it's having its moment as it should, and I'm so happy. So I wanted to share that that about my um my gynecologist, because it was so we I no longer see her, but she was like, Here, just take this. Like I'd see you get that ick sometimes and you know it's wrong, as women especially were very in tune. Listen to that, super important.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, listen to to your to your gut, right? Because it's normally right when when my doctor told me that, I was like, Yeah, no, and it's okay to be an advocate for yourself, and it's okay to get second opinions, and it's okay to do something about it because you don't you don't have to suffer. Correct, you don't have to suffer. Um I'm Cuban, Julie, and in my in my community, in my you know, um I for I'm first generation American, um, and we were taught to put your head down, work your ass off, don't bring attention to yourself, just do what you gotta do. If you gotta suffer through stuff, suffer through it, you know, get things done, hustle it out, which there's a lot of really good things about that because our work ethic is incredible, you know, we're hustlers, we're gonna, we're gonna figure things out and make things happen. But on the flip side, it's like you know, you're you're you're freaking miserable. So am I supposed to put my head down and suffer through that? No, like it's okay. Right. And so like it's it's it's not okay to suffer through it because there's things that you can do. There's and so that's our message all the time. It's like you don't have to suffer, and like and like your podcast, it's not over.

SPEAKER_02:

It's not, it's it is so interesting, and you're not alone, like no one's alone. I think women feel I'm the only one, or it's shameful, and it's it you know what a big precursor is for that for menopause is for women that have children that suffered with uh um like preclamsia or no, um uh come on when you when you're not well um postpartum, postpartum. Thank you so much. Yep, that's my menopause happening. I can't think it's okay, but in life madness for finishing my sentence, I appreciate it. So it is a precursor that when your hormones are not balanced, you are a little bit off, and that's okay. And it's ask for help and figure it out. And if that doesn't work, try something else. And if that doesn't work, try something else, but know your people, know your people, yes, and know your girl gang. I'm big about girl gang at our age, like being social and having that kind of community.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, I would not be alive because we're all going through the same things, correct, correct, all going through the same thing, some some worse than others. Like, I I have I have some clients that are like, I didn't feel a thing during menopause, and I'm like, You're so lucky.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, yes, but you really want to be like something are happening.

SPEAKER_00:

I had that the other day, actually. The other day I was talking to somebody and she's like, No, I didn't have you know, I don't have any symptoms, I don't have this and that. I'm like, Oh, that's great. Um, let me ask you a question. Do you want to eat sugar between the times of 6 30 and 9 30 p.m. every night? She's like, Yeah, yeah. I always like to like eat a little something sugary at night. I'm like, you do understand that that's uh hormonal cravings, right? Hello. Yes, and it's menopause is not only, you know, I'm sweating my ass off in the middle of the day for no reason whatsoever. There's so many different symptoms, like side effects of menopause that are like some are like little, you know, very subtle, and some is like I'm I'm I feel like I'm in a furnace, right? There's so many different ones.

SPEAKER_02:

And I love what you said earlier, kind of um noticing it and being cognizant and just noticing when something starts to go wrong, we wait till it's awful sometimes. If I tell you I was balled up in my bed, I was afraid to go to sleep because I wasn't sleeping. And then I got up and I was it was not well. I was not well. So I'm so grateful to everything happens for a reason. I believe that too, um, to share that experience with other women. It's it's like the weight of the world is is lifted off of them because you're now in part of a community that you're not alone. And it's just normal. It it happens. It's like there's bookends, like when you get your it's so interesting when you get your period at a young as when you're young, it's like, hey, like it's awesome. And I'm Jewish, we start slapping things and slapping people, and it's so why is it not also recognized as something beautiful when you stop getting it? Like, I think we need to change that script. It really does.

SPEAKER_00:

It's such it has such a negative thing, and it's it's it's actually a beautiful transition in life. Yeah, it can be a very beautiful transition in life. I know that it sometimes doesn't feel beautiful, yes, but again, you can do things to help with that, but it is a beautiful transition in life. Um, let's let's work on the negative like stigma thing around it because um god, we don't need to look at it that way.

SPEAKER_02:

I think we need to we're gonna come up with some maybe a slogan or something, but it is it it is, it's it's something so beautiful and to be celebrated and beats the alternative, right? That's what I always say. Beats the alternative, right? And people are living longer, and it's you know, growing gracefully. And again, going back to the social media, everyone's putting filters and like get getting old. I'm gonna get wrinkles and I'm going to sag in a lot of places, and I might get a gray hair on my vagina one day. I heard so. I am going to be I'm gonna call you when it happens, but I'm okay with that. That's you know, that means I'm alive.

SPEAKER_00:

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_02:

I love that.

SPEAKER_00:

What did you say? Told you I'd make you laugh. I love that. Um, okay, so you went to your your functional medicine doctor, they found that your your testosterone level was zero. You started some type of therapy of some sort.

SPEAKER_02:

I did. They put a pellet in my tush, and I was like, uh like you said with with your uh progesterone, within days I was feel I wasn't feeling 100% better, but I saw the change because what my body wasn't making, I was able to supplement with some people do creams. I did a pellet, it just worked better for me. But again, I tried the cream and that wasn't the fit. And it's just like I love what you said that you know you're we know our bodies, and there's no doctor in the world that could tell you you're totally fine when you know you're not feeling that way. So being an advocate for yourself, how awesome! And now you're advocating for other women.

SPEAKER_00:

So absolutely, and you are too, and we're both you know, sending out these messages. Um, we're we're in the same team, we're on the same team. Um, I love that. I love that we're we're both doing this. Um, there needs to be more, yes. Uh, and and I, you know, I really feel

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like people are putting putting more attention to that and um and investing in themselves and that is incredible that's great because again you don't have to suffer right correct correct so you're but you're still dropping eggs you said every month none of my friends could believe it like clockwork like every maybe 31 days I'm like I don't for me it's kind of like I think it's supposed to keep you a little bit younger while you're still dropping eggs so when I stop we'll see what happens there and and you know what I might go back to my doctor and stop producing something it's an ongoing thing right it is I'm I'm perimenopausal and my my functional med doc said this is how he said it I was like great he said you're in perimenopause but you're as fertile as a 15 year old I'm like great yeah no my tubes are tied I'm not fertile but I'm like I don't know am I supposed to celebrate that at 50 years old I don't think but I don't want to be fertile the fifth it's a young person sport it's a young person sport and it's funny when when I got my tubes tied with after my second daughter that the doctor was saying to me this doctor that I no longer use like are you sure you want to tie your tubes I'm like a thousand percent I'm 38 years old this is I don't want to be talking poop and she asked my husband like she needed to get the okay from him which I thought was really interesting and I thought that was the right thing to ask is it okay with you so it's just I I think we're we're turning pages and I love the light that we're bringing to this beautiful thing that that really should be celebrated Martha should be so tell me Julie top three things that you want the people that are watching listening just what it is if you're there's only three things that you can share right now what are those three things I will first thing you will never be younger and never look better than you do today so appreciate that number two I would say probably like really enjoy the the journey right life is you're in a car you're packed and sometimes you hit a flat right so you don't just sit there in the car and a hot car you call for help so kind of knowing who your support system is and the third thing I think it's really falling in love with yourself having some kind of relationship with yourself whether you're married or divorced or whatever your situation is um because we're different than we were many years ago and celebrating your downfalls and recognizing the beautiful things about yourself and it it shouldn't be that hard right and I think that's what we do helping to beauty and things because it's it's there it's there and being open to asking for help and having that person in your life a coach embrace the madness yes yes there we go embrace the madness um so how how can our audience get to know you a little bit more do you have social platforms I do I I I'm an old school Facebook person so I do a lot of stuff on Facebook my name is Julie Cooper Savitz and my show it's not over is on YouTube. If you look up Julie Savits it's not over it's me with like a pretty pink picture and it's um a little bit raunchy might not be for everyone but we say it like it is and just like you do it's it's entertaining and you will learn something and you will laugh and I promise you will not feel alone. So you didn't give us too much of that today you just you you said the the gray hair in the vagina part I did I did people that I talk to and people think I'm joking not yet because the only place I get here right now is my vagina like I don't have hair on my legs I don't my I'm not one of these chin hair person I don't know but my vagina gets a lot of hair but it's still you know black although I'm a true blonde I get I get one I get one hair right here oh you do I do just one I don't do it so once in a while just like legs anymore you know I still get hairy on the legs well that's a Spanish thing I think yeah but I'm not like in general I'm not a hairy person uh but I am getting what's new midlife madness is the one here right here but it takes a while so when I get it off it takes a while for it to grow back but it's a it's a new new thing I have to keep an eye on yeah I've seen a few in my tush if that's like a thing I don't know I'm dating so I gotta you know get the mirror down there and see what's happening. One of my arms does and one of my arms doesn't so it's all beautiful it's all beautiful it is what it is I love it.

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I love doing this because we're just so transparent and like I don't care I put myself out there that's you know I feel like that's encouraging and and it's irrelatable and you know sharing with people that they're not alone so beautiful and messy beautiful and messy beautiful and messy yes midlife madness and it's not over thank you for having me thank you for coming i i'm I'm hoping that this is not the only time because I think we can have a lot of fun together I think so also I think next time we talk about the insurance and how some sort of something happening in the world where they don't want us to be happy as we get older. Oh yeah I agree with that. Yes let's talk about that next time all right thank you so much Julie bye Martha bye honey bye everyone